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		<title>Comment on THE KILLER INSIDE ME: Gratuitous arguments&#8230;. by Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not sure I am in any position to comment as I haven&#039;t seen the film, but have listened to and read much. 
If the scene is as it has been described, then I do indeed disagree.

But first, I agree with you absolutely that a realistic and serious depiction is far less objectionable than the &#039;torture porn&#039; of most hollywood action flicks and the &#039;Saw&#039; generation of horrors, where infliction of pain is meant to titillate and thrill.

But no matter how honest, real, and serious Winterbottom is with the scene, it isn&#039;t enough of a justification to say that he is showing a murder &quot;as it would really be&quot;. As soon as one steps into creating drama, one is creating entertainment. Scenes can be harrowing and tragic and horrific, but simply showing prolonged brutality to the point that people can&#039;t look does not constitute art. 
You can create the horror of abuse and murder without being explicit. Before Tarantino disappeared up his arse, his &#039;ear-slicing&#039; scene in Reservoir Dogs was a perfect example of creating stomach-churning toe-curling horror while showing virtually nothing.
If a director uses the reasoning that &quot;this is how it really happens&quot;, then where would you draw the line? Would you watch explicit re-enactment of kiddie abuse? Winterbottom knows what he is doing. He is creating shock to get tongues wagging, nothing more.
I enjoy thought provoking cinema that shows pain and suffering and horrific things, not because I enjoy seeing those things per say, but because those things make me think and feel and respond emotionally. So I won&#039;t be seeing the film (even though I agree with you about Casey Affleck) .
So there.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Seeber.
x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not sure I am in any position to comment as I haven&#8217;t seen the film, but have listened to and read much.<br />
If the scene is as it has been described, then I do indeed disagree.</p>
<p>But first, I agree with you absolutely that a realistic and serious depiction is far less objectionable than the &#8216;torture porn&#8217; of most hollywood action flicks and the &#8216;Saw&#8217; generation of horrors, where infliction of pain is meant to titillate and thrill.</p>
<p>But no matter how honest, real, and serious Winterbottom is with the scene, it isn&#8217;t enough of a justification to say that he is showing a murder &#8220;as it would really be&#8221;. As soon as one steps into creating drama, one is creating entertainment. Scenes can be harrowing and tragic and horrific, but simply showing prolonged brutality to the point that people can&#8217;t look does not constitute art.<br />
You can create the horror of abuse and murder without being explicit. Before Tarantino disappeared up his arse, his &#8216;ear-slicing&#8217; scene in Reservoir Dogs was a perfect example of creating stomach-churning toe-curling horror while showing virtually nothing.<br />
If a director uses the reasoning that &#8220;this is how it really happens&#8221;, then where would you draw the line? Would you watch explicit re-enactment of kiddie abuse? Winterbottom knows what he is doing. He is creating shock to get tongues wagging, nothing more.<br />
I enjoy thought provoking cinema that shows pain and suffering and horrific things, not because I enjoy seeing those things per say, but because those things make me think and feel and respond emotionally. So I won&#8217;t be seeing the film (even though I agree with you about Casey Affleck) .<br />
So there.<br />
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Seeber.<br />
x</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEVER TELL LAUNCH: JUST ABOUT RECOVERED by MarkSpizer</title>
		<link>http://www.claireseeber.com/blog/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkSpizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 07:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post as usual!</description>
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		<title>Comment on NEVER TELL *2 by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.claireseeber.com/blog/?p=187&#038;cpage=1#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mary
How nice to hear from you and hmm, let me defend my poor heroine quickly (and myself of course!).  I think Rose was writing during all the bits she wasn&#039;t running round after baddies or men!  I&#039;m very glad you enjoyed it though; thank you for taking the time to let me know - it really does make it all worthwhile, knowing someone out there is reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mary<br />
How nice to hear from you and hmm, let me defend my poor heroine quickly (and myself of course!).  I think Rose was writing during all the bits she wasn&#8217;t running round after baddies or men!  I&#8217;m very glad you enjoyed it though; thank you for taking the time to let me know &#8211; it really does make it all worthwhile, knowing someone out there is reading!</p>
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		<title>Comment on NEVER TELL *2 by Mary Torjussen</title>
		<link>http://www.claireseeber.com/blog/?p=187&#038;cpage=1#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Torjussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Claire

So I&#039;m the first on here to say how much I loved your book! 

I&#039;ve just finished reading it - started yesterday morning and haven&#039;t been able to put it down! What a complicated story! Loved the Oxford part - all those feelings of not belonging - and loved the children, too  - they were so funny. Not sure about her choice of men - talk about not recognising someone who&#039;s bad for you! I loved the feelings she had after her brief affair, too - it described very well the way you can still yearn for someone so long after you&#039;ve been forgotten. 

The only criticism I have (sorry!) is that I couldn&#039;t see why she was such a good journalist, since she doesn&#039;t seem to do any writing! I thought it was a bit unlikely that Xavier would keep nagging her to work for him, when there would be so many other candidates around - he knew she wouldn&#039;t be able to put everything into the work now, the way she had in the past.

Anyway, that&#039;s a small gripe. Most of all I thought it was very cinematic - your descriptions are fantastic and it was so easy to visualise every scene and every character.

I&#039;m off to buy the others, now!

Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claire</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m the first on here to say how much I loved your book! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just finished reading it &#8211; started yesterday morning and haven&#8217;t been able to put it down! What a complicated story! Loved the Oxford part &#8211; all those feelings of not belonging &#8211; and loved the children, too  &#8211; they were so funny. Not sure about her choice of men &#8211; talk about not recognising someone who&#8217;s bad for you! I loved the feelings she had after her brief affair, too &#8211; it described very well the way you can still yearn for someone so long after you&#8217;ve been forgotten. </p>
<p>The only criticism I have (sorry!) is that I couldn&#8217;t see why she was such a good journalist, since she doesn&#8217;t seem to do any writing! I thought it was a bit unlikely that Xavier would keep nagging her to work for him, when there would be so many other candidates around &#8211; he knew she wouldn&#8217;t be able to put everything into the work now, the way she had in the past.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s a small gripe. Most of all I thought it was very cinematic &#8211; your descriptions are fantastic and it was so easy to visualise every scene and every character.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m off to buy the others, now!</p>
<p>Mary</p>
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		<title>Comment on SHINY NEW BLOG by debbie und hund</title>
		<link>http://www.claireseeber.com/blog/?p=105&#038;cpage=1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>debbie und hund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good and instructive to read / see your new blog - well done! hope the little vampire and  skelington / person got lots of lovely treats at Halloween</description>
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